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Old Jun 25, 2008, 08:26 PM // 20:26   #21
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Keep it all un-nerfed. I think it will be kinda funny.
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Old Jun 25, 2008, 08:30 PM // 20:30   #22
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The buff given to the permasin and the modifications coming up on HoM is just some cheap coat of varnish on something broken; the economy and HoM.
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Old Jun 25, 2008, 08:33 PM // 20:33   #23
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nerf it. then ty.
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Old Jun 25, 2008, 08:36 PM // 20:36   #24
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Keep it as it is. Eventually ecto's just wont be worth farming.
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Old Jun 25, 2008, 08:36 PM // 20:36   #25
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Most of the A/E's will now have stacks of Ectos, and if they see 'Decreased duration of Shadow Form x....x' , surely they'll be the ones /dance, as Ecto prices wil be going back up, and once they do reach a decent level again, say 4.8, the A/E's will be rushing to sell them, and surely, this will put the so called 'economy' in a worse state than it already is.
Everyone that owns at least 1 Ecto should be happy to see "Decreased duration of SF x...x...x", not just A/E's. But then, a week later, when ecto hits 5k again, everyone will sell, this bringing it down to 4.3k again, but a week later, it will probably stabilize at 5.5k like before SF.
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Old Jun 25, 2008, 08:40 PM // 20:40   #26
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Why bring Ursan to this? You're only making more arguments. Ursan is fine as it is.
No, it isn't, but that's not the point. Saying Ursan's fine as it will only continue the argument, so please, after my post, don't make any more Ursan posts or make that post in an Ursan thread.

Kthx.

As for Shadow Form, I won't be bothered if it got nerfed. The fact stands skills that create godmode, or anything near godmode shouldn't exist in any game.
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Old Jun 25, 2008, 08:40 PM // 20:40   #27
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As far as I'm concerned, if they were going to nerf it, they wouldn't have buffed it in the first place. They also would have done something already. Same with ursan.
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Old Jun 25, 2008, 08:41 PM // 20:41   #28
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That would be 2 great things happening in 1 week - too good to be true.
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Old Jun 25, 2008, 08:46 PM // 20:46   #29
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I say buff it so that pesky traps, touch skills, and environmental skills dont affect you. make you impervious to all kinds of damage. and get rid of the need to use GoS +paradox, just give it a duration of 10 minutes and a damage buff of 200% to all spells and attacks. hell let it come with built in sliver armour and mending.

i dont care because other peoples achievements do NOT devalue my own.
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Old Jun 25, 2008, 08:51 PM // 20:51   #30
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Need to wait i haven't made my A/E yet

haha
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Old Jun 25, 2008, 08:52 PM // 20:52   #31
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So, my question is, without anyone QQ'ing, should A-Net leave A/E how it is?
No, they should nerf it and every other farming build.
If AN nerfed SF tomorrow I'd be like "why just only SF, when other builds are also destroying the economy (lol)?"
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Old Jun 25, 2008, 08:55 PM // 20:55   #32
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Thinking about all this stuff the last days you know it really makes no difference.There are loads of ways to make money and whether or not Ectos drop or raise, people will continue to find ways to make money.Ursan and Perma Sin both get ranted about the most.Everyone has their own opinion.But really I guess perma Sin's are going to nerf themselves, as they over farm things to the point that eventually the things they get won't be worth anything.There are so many ways to make money in this game.If being invincible, alone, and just randomly clicking the same buttons unchallenged for hours on end is someone's idea of fun, so be it.As long as they don't do it for gold.Because they are fast dropping the amount they earn, on their own.The way's I make money *most of the time* perma sin has no effect on at least not negatively so I guess whatever XD
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Old Jun 25, 2008, 08:58 PM // 20:58   #33
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/facepalm

not this s$%t again.
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Old Jun 25, 2008, 09:06 PM // 21:06   #34
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I'd Bitch Because I Sold 250 Ecto @ 3.7k A Pop Two Days Ago.
Well your stupid
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Old Jun 25, 2008, 09:08 PM // 21:08   #35
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Well your stupid
Stupid for deciding to sell his ecto before the price plummets even further? Yeah, sure, whatever.
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Old Jun 25, 2008, 09:10 PM // 21:10   #36
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I'd like to see SF nerfed into the ground and unusable even tho i never use or used the A/E under world build. The perma SF is making it possible for anyone w/o skill to do under world

so I guess if [Glyph of Swiftness][Deadly Paradox][Shadow Form] involves no skill then[Protective Spirit][Healing Breeze] and a -50 ciesta doesn't, [Mantra of Earth][Stone Striker][Stoneflesh Aura][Obsidian Flesh] doesn't... hey wait a minute, farming in general must just be for no talent noobs.

The skill doesn't lye in being able to maintain a few skills, it's about being able to maintain the skills and accomplish something while you're at it. Please don't make declarations about something you admit you have never done yourself.
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Old Jun 25, 2008, 09:22 PM // 21:22   #37
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Anet never said, "Oh, if you want to store money, ectos are a good form of currency." Ectos were intended to be rare crafting materials, so i don't think the argument that it hurts people with stacks of ectos is really going to call for a nerf. As people have said, ectos are an investment, which has started to go down in value. It happens in real life all the time, so stop crying and get on with the game.
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Old Jun 25, 2008, 09:27 PM // 21:27   #38
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I've got all my money in gold & platinum, all the status symbols lost their value already (tormented items, FoW armor), so I really dont care any more.

But I'd say nerf it just for the lulz.
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Old Jun 25, 2008, 09:30 PM // 21:30   #39
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Let's say no one else ever made a thread bitching about a skill in PVE because it was "overpowered". What do you think the forums would be like?

Would it be like the world that John Lennon sang about in the song "Imagine"? Would it be paradise?
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Old Jun 25, 2008, 09:39 PM // 21:39   #40
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O, this thread really needs to be locked. To much debate and arguing here.

If they go the extent of ubernerfing it, the losers will be the A/E or A/Me since they create a similar build that will allow them to easily solo farm in the UW and unable to get ectos easily. I am putting into consideration of creating a SS necro when Shadow Form gets nerfed. But oh boy, if they nerf it, I am going to create the GW first recorded riot ever.

so QQ when ectos price gets lower, lower price for obby armor is better. It's not like 1.2k loss will kill ya.
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